JollyPieFedLenovo has removed its iconic TrackPoint nub from new ThinkPad laptops | PCWorld
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I have been a loyal ThinkPad clit user since the early 2000s and if they discontinue it entirely I will probably be more motivated to get a Framework for my next laptop.
So they're not thinkpads anymore
"If Grandma had wheels, she’d be a bus"
As a product going after the MacBook Air, that's fair as long as the regular ThinkPads keep the trackpoint, even if it's a little vestigial. However I'd think of it as a regular Lenovo with ThinkPad specs. I just helped someone buy a 5 year old E15 that's got a bent corner and more than a few scratches in its black paint and I love how it looks and feels all the more for it! The screen could definitely be better, but as a beater word processor, it performs well and is satisfying to use. And that's the romance of a ThinkPad that they'd be foolish to let go of entirely.
ddittyI would consider myself somewhat of a power user but I still rarely use the Track point now that track pads have gotten much better. The Track point is nice to use when imaging one though since it works even when the ThinkPad doesn't have trackpad drivers
I never got the nub. It's way too imprecise to get anything done. It seems to be there just for branding at this point.
Something Burger 🍔I believed the memes and got excited when my work provided me a Thinkpad.
The nub is garbage, even worse than the trackpad. Good riddance.
sunglocto
Relevant xkcd
Fucking stupid ass dumb cunt editor with ragebait article titles making me mad in the morning
Senior Editor Mark Hachman I hope you have a terrible day and stub your toe today
Thank you for this comment, it makes me happy to know Lenovo have not removed their nipple.
DEEP BREATHS
pls rub your nub too kay thanks
I already took off my robe and wizard hat.
Well first of all, now you need to put them back on
A fine addition to my collection
I do miss AdAway, favorite part of rooting. I might be due for a trip down memory lane.
1 Reason I still root is for adaway
2 reason is spite because Google thinks they own my phone
Make sure to read the Magisk installation instructions carefully (in case you choose Magisk).
Some things have changed, I messed up once thinking "I already know how this works" :D
Thankfully my Sony is supported for LOS, but I've been on the fence about getting an older pixel to try Graphene, just haven't gotten around to it with life being life
Ironic, my collection is working well too
"Ragebait"? Really?
It seems like they intentionally used a misleading title that'd get some people on pitchforks, so yeah I'm calling it a ragebait
Yes! They're threatening to take away my clit mouse
me on a date
Guillotine time
removing the nub from ThinkPad is like removing cheese from a cheeseburger.
it'll still be a laptop, but a nubless ThinkPad will always look wrong.
Next thing you know they'll put the Ctrl back in the right place.
Thankfully it can be swapped in bios
I almost didn't buy a ThinkPad back in the day before I leaned that you can swap it. Such a stupid design
I also randomly saw today that framework has the *opposite* option in BIOS. For the people that migrate over
Just learning this now, I’m not sure if I should cry.
Control back in the right place... where you can press it with your left pinkie without taking your fingers off the home keys? Rather than where useless caps lock is just wasting space?
Escape next to 1 is also underappreciated. It's how vi was meant to be used.
Exactly. I use escape way more than control.
this is actually wonderful ive been debating what to do with my caps lock thank you
@Dultas
An Fn key is dumb anyway since that is the goal of every key anyway.
@germtm_
It's honestly the only reason I still buy them. If Lenovo removes the nub or Framework adds it, I'm switching to Framework. Give me a 14" T or E series with TrackPoint and I'm happy.
Now put the clit mouse into a framework chassis (the relevant patents are now expired)
Put it on a handheld PC plz
about a million years ago I had an HTC phone that had a trackball mouse thingy. that was cool. i think it was HTC desire, not sure.
Yes, I'd switch if they did.
I prefer it over trackpad, honestly. Just adjust the acceleration.
Edit: looks like they remove it only from Aura line. Please stub your toe somewhere, author.
No more laptop clit
My work laptop is not Lenovo but has a nub. It's works great when I have work gloves on, since the touchpad doesn't respond well with those.
me too my Thinkpad E14 gen 2 is very tough and that trackpoint helps me a lot.
Who has still with nub?
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/looking-for-nub-best-and-worst-notebook-pointing-sticks
Mine is the HP type.
Is *nothing* sacred anymore‽
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I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER!
Those who don't use it are only mildly annoyed by it, but those who use it will raise holy hell now that it's gone.
Is it actually usable? I never owned one
Oh yeah.
It isn't a dealbreaker for me, but it really is nice. It takes getting used to, but it cuts down on the need to move to the touchpad or mouse. If you're working in tight quarters, or have mobility issues, or hand issues, it *can* end up being a major improvement. It's a ymmv thing of course, but I end up using it more than I thought I would when writing.
Used one for a few years and I loved it:
But, there's no mouse wheel or scroll gesture and maintaining pressure on the nub is maybe more tiring than a trackpad.
You can scroll with nub by holding the middle button
Back when I was in high school, we had a shared pool of laptops stored in the library, and our teachers would reserve the library space for days when we were supposed to be working on laptops. My district had a bunch of Dells with the nipple mouse. To this day I still think it’s probably the most convenient and precise input device I’ve ever used.
Some people prefer it over trackpad, or use both. Personally I like to disable trackpad because I tend to always hit it with palm or thumb by accident
I use a mechanical keyboard with one on my desktop, I actually use it quite a lot.
That sounds awesome! Is it a Unicomp EnduraPro or is there some other option?
TEX out of Taiwan makes a few.
Awesome, thanks!
I think it works fantastically well. I personally like it much better than a touchpad. It lets me move the pointer without taking my hands away from typing home position.
It’s fine. Takes some time to get used to. Some people really love it, but I don’t think it’s that great.
I can never get mine to go where I want first try, and sometimes the pointer drifts on its own after I take my finger off.
The best I can do, is to steer it slowly. For me, it’s always been the inferior option when compared to a regular touchpad.
Although, I do se the benefit of the central positioning when you need to type more and you don’t want to move your fingers from the home row just to click something quickly.
Maybe the IBM touch points were better. I could see the Lenovo ones being mostly for show / plausible deniability.
It feels a lot like using a game controller to control your mouse, if you've ever used Joy2Key or similar programs.
It's not just for decoration. You can use it as a legitimate pointing device. Nudging it will move the mouse cursor and tapping it with your fingernail is clicking.
It takes some getting used to but you can definitely use it for normal office tasks if you wanted to. That being said, I still personally prefer a mouse. But I have known some people who like using the nipple.
Dunno. I have one on my semifake E580 and I just used it to check if it works. It's a bit awkward for me.
i don’t care about the nub on mine, but i do care a lot about the left/right click buttons that take up so much of the trackpad area. just gimme a bigass trackpad.
ThinkPad isn't for you then. There are plenty of laptops with huge track pads, there aren't many with a nub.
If Framework offered a nub, I'd switch. Until then, I'm sticking with whichever 14" Thinkpad has a nub.
if only i had a choice of what my work assigns to me.
Same. I'm stuck on an Apple laptop and much prefer my personal Thinkpad.
lol I'd trade you.
At least I'm up for an upgrade, so I'll get an M-series chip, which is cool. I really don't like macOS though and much prefer my Linux workflow.
I actually stopped using mine a long time ago, and every time I get a new laptop, I remove it. Not because I hate it, but because I like it. Even after modifying the acceleration settings to where I like them though, the repeated stress of pushing on the nub eventually start to develop dendonitis in my finger.
After I've trained myself to only use the trackpad I put the nub back on. Partly because it's so iconic it just looks wrong without it, and partly because I want to avoid conversations with guest about my growing clit graveyard (although I guess I could just not leave them in a cup on the coffee table where everyone can see)
I think you're overstimulating. You need to be gentle, which benefits both of you. Try resting it on or near the nub and applying gentle pressure.
How do you have more than, like, 3? How often do you change laptops?
At least 2...
God is dead
I will not buy a Lenovo without the clitmouse
Not a Lenovo icon. They bought ThinkPad, nippleclit and all, from IBM.
Engage giant-marble-headstone
R I P
This, and why do they take away the 2 buttons below the track pad. PC track pads are barely tolerable as it is.
Fewer parts means cheaper to manufacture.
Don't be fooled; they're only doing it to increase profits because our standards aren't higher.
Nobody was using that thing
You mean the nub, or buttons on the trackpad?
I, personally, made use of both back when I had a thinkpad.
I used both. But the track pad buttons are so much easier to use for click and drag operations, left click right click is a button not an Interpreted 2 finger gesture that doesn't always work.
The new ones were garbage anyways. Mine is stuck at a polling rate of 10hz, and the acceleration is god awful
Oh its one of those Thinkpads that isn't actually a Thinkpad like the Thinkpad Yogas. My ideal Thinkpad would be a proper release of the T480 25th Anniversary Edition with newer components.
It's super handy on my X1c 6thgen when my trackpad randomly freezes about once a month and I need to shut everything down and reboot. Bah.
Open to tips for fixing the trackpad if anyone has that on their radar!
Admittedly overdue and also a sign of the end days
A brand has (finally) died.
Nah. Died when Lenovo bought it from IBM. Died again when IBM stopped offering support for them.
Never used trackpoints.
And all my laptops are ThinkPads.
I Always disable both trackpoint and touchpad.