JollyPieFedIt Shouldn't Even Be Close: Harris Must Ditch Genocide and Embrace Working-Class Politics
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆What the dems care about is that their donors keep funding them. If they lose the election, then it doesn't actually matter because they'll still get the same money they're getting now. However, if they win the election and piss off the donors then they lose money.
delirious_owlShe's not a progressive tho. Why would you expect her to gave progressive policies?
Cowbee [he/they]Spoiler: she won't. Werhmacht Walz already expressed support for "Greater Israel," ie *accelerated* and *expanded* settler-colonialism and genocide.
Harris supports Israel because the US Empire needs it. It serves as a rabid dog for the US to terrorize the Middle East, securing the Petro-Dollar by which the US maintains monopoly over global Financial Capital, and Imperialism in the Global South.
She will not change, it isn't a moral issue but an economic one.
Werhmacht Walz already expressed support for "Greater Israel,"
Holy shit where?
Oh. I don't think he meant physical expansion of the country's borders, but you never know with these people.
The number of Zionists who don't want to expand is quite few. If you're a Zionist, then you're a colonialist by definition.
Colonialists gonna colonize.
This is in the context of Israel trying to annex parts of Lebanon, Israeli real estate is already frothing at the mouths looking for apartments to rent. If it isn't intentional, it's extremely ignorant.
In that case holy shit what the fuck? Like did he seriously have to *say* that in this political climate? Why is nobody talking about this?
Many Leftists are talking about this, the problem is that Liberals are weathervanes, they attack the fascists when the fascists are in charge and attack the leftists when the Liberals are in charge.
When you're talking about the loss of American Citizens, sometimes you've got to pander to the American people.
Zionist. They're both Zionists.
I watched it. It was clearly a mistake he meant to say Iran. Even Vance was confused by what he said.
Who are Israel’s proxies? “Iran and its proxies” is a very common line used to describe the various organisations with links to and support from Iran and Waltz was nervous at the start of the debate and stumbling his lines.
PolandIsAStateOfMindBut the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there
This have absolutely zero sense if he wanted to say "Iran". Expansion of Iran would be absolute fundamental necessity for the United States??? In all other times when he speaks about Iran he's total hawk and sometimes even already speaks like there is open war between US and Iran.
Expansion of Iran is a fundamental necessity for the United States to deal with
It's not what he said, he said:
But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
Even assuming it really was brainfart, dude who make multiple such brainfarts in a single sentence, entirely changing the meaning of his speech shouldn't be even village post worker, not to mention Vice President of USA.
And considering what he said exactly fits and is consistent with both US decalrations and actions, this wasn't a brainfart, it was something much worse for them: a moment of sincerity.
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LinkerbaanPutin already got his ICC arrest warrant. Time for Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris to join him.
Given her opponent will absolutely speed up that genocide, anyone worried about it should shut the fuck up until after Harris is actually president.
its a dance between the electorate and the elected. nobody should be shutting up about anything - even the insane trumpets. sanity has no special disposition on this planet and, if you want your particular flavor of reality implemented, scream about it and then make it happen.
we are exactly in this position because not enough people were involved in the process to begin with. please don't hate-shame people out of it again.
And then... Israel gets to genocide Gaza for four more years? People need to realize that if US policy on Gaza doesn't change soon, a significant fraction of the Gazan population (more than the already significant 1 out of 10-20 anyway) will die. There is currently a full blown famine in Gaza and it can't wait for the next election.
And then Palestine will actually have a lot more political opportunities once the GoP is searching for a Trump replacement.
Break the far right by stopping Trump and Putin's influence on the western world, and things like war crimes and genocide actually have meaning again.
And then Palestine will actually have a lot more political opportunities
How so? Harris and "Israel should expand more" Waltz? The Democrat establishment has given no indication that they have any issue with what Israel is doing.
once the GoP is searching for a Trump replacement.
I mean they might find one or might not, but either way they're not going away anytime soon. Project 2025 will just become project 2029, and then the 2028 election will be another "fight for democracy". Voters are tired of being told to vote blue no matter who while the party shifts further and further to the right.
Her opponent will do the exact same amount of Genocide. Harris is warmongering to attack Iran just like Trump.
The only thing Holocaust Harris will do it is word her war crimes a little nicer.
agamemnonymousThis is totally unfounded speculation which betrays a frankly embarrassing political ignorance.
Congress controls what we send to Israel. Biden tried to stop arms shipments in May, Congress overturned it. That is a fact. Everyone crying "genocide Joe" either doesn't understand the division of powers in our government, or is deliberately lying to help the far right.
Harris' opponent *won't* flight Congress on aid to Israel, and *will* flight them on aid to Ukraine, and is already suggesting nuking Iran. Claiming they are exactly the same is either stupidity or subterfuge.
Please learn how politics works before pretending to have knowledge. Biden is full controll to stop arms shipments it's called Leahy Law and Biden is violating it. The entire Biden administration are Genocidal Nazis who need to be put in jail for life.
US uses loophole to keep 100 arms sales to Israel under the radar amid Gaza war
Biden administration not required to disclose sales below set dollar amount, in addition to public shipments worth over $573m
Please learn how politics works before pretending to have knowledge.
Please learn what irony is before making such ridiculous statements. I don't tolerate bad faith nonsense from fascists or their useful idiots.
Congress is in control here, we do not actually have a unitary executive, despite the best efforts of the fascist party you insist on helping daily.
Does the executive branch not have the authority to execute laws?
Laws long occluded by complex criteria and special concessions carved out for this particular scenario. Does the legislative branch not control the purse?
What kind of clown blames the guy who's trying to help but not hard enough, instead of the ghouls actively causing the problem and stonewalling his efforts to help?
Google Leahy Law and consider lurking a bit more before commenting as if you know what you're talking about.
Oh the Leahy Law that specifically carves out complex exceptions for Israel? Consider reading more than the headline when you're googling foreign policy.
After she's elected when the voters have the least amount of leverage? Before an election is the best time to be loud about things. Actually before a primary is probably the best time, but you get the drift.
It shouldn't even be close *now*. Explain that, and then point to the 'working class' politics they're losing to.
Anyone who says winning should be a breeze is an absolute idiot. You're dealing with a cult and an electoral college that skews the race toward the Republicans. She'll win the popular vote, but that's all that's certain.
Honestly, it should be easy if you embrace economic populist policies, but instead Harris is running to the neocons and trying to triangulate to present herself as a principled Republican.
It literally doesn't matter. She's still going to lose all the red states. She's not swaying any Trump voters with that message, they've already decided, for the most part, to vote against their own interest.
False. Bernie was steamrolling and then the neocons threw it with Hillary.
Can you not tell the difference between a primary and general election?
Average liberal talking to people like they don't know about politics while not knowing about poltics.
Go research what the DNC did in 2016 then come back.
Here's what I said:
I'm obviously talking about the general election currently happening with Trump. 2016 Democratic primary is irrelevant. I'm sorry you're so confused.
There’s a lot more weapons left in their coconut tree for Israel.