CNN bans guest for telling Muslim journalist 'I hope your beeper doesn't go off'
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www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/cnn-bans…
Ryan Girdusky clashed with British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan on Monday night.
CNN has banned a conservative commentator from appearing on the network again after he told a Muslim journalist "I hope your beeper doesn't go off," an apparent reference to the spate of exploding pagers in Lebanon that killed members of the Hezbollah militant group last month.
Ryan Girdusky made the comment during a heated debate with Mehdi Hasan, a prominent British-American broadcaster and an outspoken critic of Israel's war in Gaza, on "CNN Newsnight" with host Abby Phillip.
The guests were discussing the racist jokes made by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, which overshadowed former President Donald Trump's rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday and continue to make headlines two days later.
As the debate turned fractious, Girdusky and Hasan sparred over whether the latter had been labeled an anti-Semite. "I'm a supporter of the Palestinians, I'm used to it," Hasan said.
Girdusky replied: "Well I hope your beeper doesn't go off."
GOP: "stop canceling me!!! everyone should be able to say whatever they want!!!!"
also GOP: "stop kneeling for the anthemmmmm!!!!"
"It was a prank, bro!"
The last refuge of the Trumpist shitheel.
Playing off hate as a joke, this is why it's okay to punch nazis
Punching nazis always produces a smile if not a laugh
Yup, there's also this idea that certain people like to posit that Nazis never laugh or attempt to make jokes. It's not that you aren't joking, it's *what your joke says about you*.
I can understand that in a particular moment you're not calling for the literal death of your political opponents, yet still believe you'd be pretty okay with the literal death of your political opponents, and your "joke" may well help me be more confident in my conclusion.
Yeah. This was definitely a joke. It’s also definitely not a joke whose teller I want anywhere near a political panel or as the guest on a news show. I wouldn’t think of this joke, it makes my skin crawl. The fact that he not only thought of it, but found it worthy of saying, speaks volumes as to how he thinks about people.
To be fair, the original Nazis were German...
German comedian in monotone: I just flew in to Zurich and my armz, zey are tired.
Audience: cough.
That's because it's true. Fascists fundamentally destroy humor. They aren't joking when they say this stuff. They just say they are.
It's so much more straightforward than people act like.
It's always a joke when these folks get pushback.
That’s called a Schrödingers douchebag. Something is both a joke and not a joke until one is called out.
aka the Trump superposition.
I thought that was when he cheated on his wives
Yup. It came off as ignorant hate, not a joke.
https://youtu.be/QwmFv4jnH-4
That was my point. His response was, "It was a joke, bro" which is the last refuge of Trumpist shit heels like him. "I'm sorry that my racist, hateful comment offended you."
Absolutely. I was supporting your point with the interview itself, since it wasn’t linked in the article.
Thanks! I misunderstood.
No worries. You’re totally right.
This goes back a long way. There are posts on neo-nazi BBS systems from the 80s where they are talking about the strategy of making a racist comment, then playing it off as a joke if there’s pushback, and noting that a given audience may be receptive to more extreme and overt racist messaging in the future.
Well, people like this Girdusky are a joke. At least that much is certain.
I'm still flabbergasted that there hasn't been more of an international outrage concerning those pagers.
The use of mines as an indiscriminate weapon are already frowned upon,
And here they are using them, scattered throughout a civilian population with absolutely no regard to who could be standing next to their target.
Un-fucking believable.
They bombed dozens of hospitals and orphanages across two countries and also started a starvation siege since that time.
There is no outrage left
This really hit me. As in maybe it explains some things since the internet was created. It’s indeed so hard to keep up.
I know it's different, but that reminds me of the Gish gallop.
Oh no... Israel is doing the Gish gallop but for human rights atrocities... this explains it perfectly.
Yup with both parties supporting it. Such a grand time.
That's called desensitization.
And I'm so numb to it, i don't even notice anymore.
There has been minimal pushback to the Israeli apartheid regime and decades long genocide in Palestine. You think a few more deaths are going to inspire real international action?
There hasn't been outrage because blowing up people with pagers is actually the most targeted thing Israel has done in the past year. Certainly a step up from killing hundreds of refugees to maybe take out one hamas guy.
They killed children in that pager attack. Which I guess is part for the course, so ya, nevermind, you might be right.
Accused hamas guy
Which pager strike in particular do you disagree with? AFAIK the targets were pretty open about their relations to Hamas and Iranian funded extranational militants.
IMO we should have just stopped giving Israel shells and rockets a long time ago and instead given them a very small amount of spec ops equipment like the pagers.
Yes. The 9 year old girl was TOTALLY a Hezbollah militant.
Get real. Most of the people killed were civilian government workers and members of their families.
It would be like giving congress exploding pens. Yes, many of the members are deplorable. But handing them mini explosives is an act of terrorism.
Ah thats fair, I was unaware of the attacks on Tuesday and Wednesday September 12 and 13th.
I had only heard about the earlier strikes.
I'm not commenting on the pager attack when I refer to "accused hamas guy" but I'll leave it as an exercise to you to figure out why and how the pager strike might have led (and did lead) to civilian casualties.
Yes more precise than "was in a WhatsApp group with the cousin of a suspected Hamas member so the AI told us to bomb him at home with his children" but if that's the bar....
You replied to a comment about blowing up a hamas guy with pager by saying the hamas guy is only an *accused* hamas guy, but you were not referring to the blowing up of a hamas guy with a pager?
What's even crazier for me to wrap my head around is those pagers were a safer method for civilians than what they've been doing. They're indiscriminately leveling city blocks killing thousands of innocents.
Not mines, IEDs. It was an indiscriminate terrorist attack on a civilian population using improvised explosive devices.
Indiscriminate it was not. It was hyper targeted at everyone in the command chain that got a beeper. It's not as if they sold them through normal stores to the general population.
They literally set off bombs in grocery stores and doctors offices. They killed a kid.
Right, because pagers blowing up in public is not indiscriminate.
It was indiscriminate and it was mass terrorism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_pager_explosions
A supply chain of a terrorist organisations was infiltrated and they where sold devices fitted with explosives and then distributed it within their organisation.
Everyone with a pager (and later also other devices) fell within the Hezbollah hierachy. The fact Hezbollah has infiltrated every level of society and has Docters and many others in their ranks does not make them invalid targets.
Besides, judging from the videos, we saw people standing next to whoever had the pager where mostly fine. The children dieing is horrible.
So calling it indiscriminate is more than a stretch. And the collateral damage is wayyyyy lower than with the rest of how Israël behaves.
Israel has never stopped ethnic cleansing of native populations
Hezbollah exists out of resistance to Occupation and Invasion by Israel
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/09/lebanon-establish-international-investigation-into-deadly-attacks-using-exploding-portable-devices/
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/09/exploding-pagers-and-radios-terrifying-violation-international-law-say-un
Just because Israel routinely violates international humanitarian law and targets civilians doesn't make this any less of a violation of international humanitarian law and a war crime
Not improvised, and not on the civilian population, but you're correct about the rest lol
Not on the civilian population, other than pagers blowing up in public?
You can see footage of some Hezbobros blowing up in the middle of a supermarket, with the people standing around them being unharmed. They were intended to maim the user of the device, the explosives were too small to cause much more. Sure, there are a handful of civilians hurt or even killed but this is was a lot 'cleaner' than throwing bombs from planes or Hezbollah's own preferred method of firing rockets over the border.
As per Wikipedia, Hezbollah has to kill one civilian for every 2 soldiers. With the pager attacks, Israel hit 2750 Hezbobros and 'only' killed 2 kids.
I'll take warfare tactics you don't expect from first world nations for $1000, Alex.
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You're describing what the Palestinians did to Israel on 10/7, and have continued doing this entire time, when they launch rockets at Israeli population centers.
Why does one side have population centers and the other human shields? It's wrong regardless.
One side at least wants to pretend to have military targets?
You know that is actually insightful to the PTSD that many IDF soldiers are experiencing.
I didn't realize that HAMAS was as large an organization as the Israeli government and armed forces.
We're also talking about a completely different country from Palestine that had nothing to do with any part of any of these conflicts, and even then, an indiscriminate terrorist attack on Palestinian civilians wouldn't be justified by HAMAS's terrorism. That's like saying that the US bombings on Iraqi civilians are justified by Al Qaeda's attack on the WTC on 9/11.
Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel for a year now. It's hard to claim they have nothing to do with any part of these conflicts
Hezbollah only exists because of Occupations and invasions by Israel
1982
Israeli Withdrawal
2006
2007 - Present
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/17/beyond-hezbollah-the-history-of-tensions-between-lebanon-and-israel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict
And yet, that still doesn't justify killing civilians randomly.
And Israel has been running a military campaign to exterminate Palestine since the 1950s. It's hard to claim their hands are clean in any of these conflicts.
I still remember when they were offering Israeli citizenship with the purchase of former Palestinian homes to American Jews in the 2000s.
They were firing rockets into the Shebaa farms, which Israel acknowledged is not part of Israel. Israel started doing airstrikes into Lebanon and then Hizbullah retaliated.
This is a genocide on an incarcerated population, within an Apartheid State, founded on Ethnic Cleansing
Ethnic Cleansing is fundamental to Zionism
Settlements and Occupation
Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.
This type of settlement, where the native population gets 'Transferred' to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.
The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:
- Plan Dalet
- Declassified Massacres of 1948
- Details of Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948) .
Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:
While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements
The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.
Apartheid Evidence
Amnesty Report
Human Rights Watch Report
B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer
Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing
Peace Process and Solution
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Historian Works on the History
Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History - Nur Masalha
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 - Nur Masalha
A History of Modern Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine - Rashid Khalidi
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The 1967 Arab-Israeli War: Origins and Consequences - Avi Shlaim
The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories - Ilan Pappe
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-development - Sara Roy
10 Myths About Israel - Ilan Pappe (summery)
That's also bad. Both of the sides are bad, and the Palestinian civilians are caught in the crossfire.
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Say what you want about Americans, we have yet to respond to a terror attack with fucking genocide.
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It was a terrorist attack. We must condemn all terrorist attacks
At this point it'd probably be less work to praise them when (if?) they don't commit any...
Every day Israel doesn't commit an atrocity, they get a cookie.
Fortunately, I like cookies, cause it looks like I'm going to be hanging onto them for a while.
Don't eat them all yourself though.
Otherwise Israel would have no incentive to stop.
Half of the people those pagers killed were children and health workers.
Wait.. what?
I'm I reading that right?
12 people killed. 6 of which were 2 children and 4 healthcare workers.
But 2,800 wounded?
So all of that wasn't even about neutralizing targets, but maiming?
How many were set off? I have a hard time believing a 12killed : 2800wounded ratio...
EDIT: Google says bout 5000 pagers
CNN: reports 37killked but 3,000 wounded.
well we know who could be standing next to their target- another brown person in a majority muslim country. IE, nobody western supremacist racist pigs give a fuck about which is why there was no punishment and there will be no punishment against israel for any single thing they do. if it were gonna happen it would have by now. it's not as tho once they get to that 300,000th dead palestinian suddenly the "rules based order" is gonna enact some of those "consequences for breaking the rules" on israel. not gonna happen. someone needs to dylan crooks netanyahu.
The conflict is not one based on racism, it's literally based on religion and at least 3 groups of people in a small area using their religion to justify the murder of others. Full stop. Jews are not white. Jews who were expelled from Israel and became Europeanized are essentially genetically identical to the Jews that remained. Skin color is not race, but making this conflict about race makes that individual racist
The only people who had those pagers were Hezbollah members. Hezbollah has been lobbing missiles into Israel, killing civilians including children and forcing an evacuation. They picked a fight, why should there be an expectation that Israel just sits back and takes it? Don't get me wrong about Gaza, they have gone way too far there. But Hezbollah seems at least somewhat justified.
Did they have camera's in them to know that? and also know about people in the surrounding area?
And you think this is the appropriate response to that?
I get the Israeli people are absolutely tired of this shit. But what makes them think that kind of response isn't going to do anything other than bolster the other sides hatred/resolve?
As they indiscriminately kill more, they are recruiting more to the cause. When someone loses their kids/brother/father/home/etc. That just makes them having nothing more to lose, and join the war. People don't want to fight. People just want to live their lives.
Israel is the one with all the weapons/tech/money in this. If the Israeli people are tired of this shit, they need to look at a leader who's not going to perform actions that just increases Hezbollah's and Hamas's numbers.
Pretty clear from the footage and lack of civilian casualties that the collateral risk was very low though
Yeah no, the exploding pagers and radios, which were from an intercepted supply specifically for Hezbollah, was far more targeted than anyone could reasonably ask for.
Like yes, Israel's overall actions in Gaza and Lebanon have been horribly ruthless and against civilian well-being. And there is the broader context of Palestine. But this is what you're outraged by?
If everything between bombing Hezbollah and targeted attacks like the pagers/radio are off the table, like what would you actually do if a non-governmental military was indiscriminately firing hundreds of rockets into your cities for an entire year? Seriously, how would you actually respond if you were in the leadership position?
Idk dude, generally things like booby traps are considered illegal in part because they're *not* selective. Like if someone breaks in and you kill them with a gun it's self defense, but if it's a booby trap then we view it differently. Disguising bombs as typical civilian items seems pretty messed up.
Did you forget that
every "responsible" western power(Edit: Ottawa treaty) the US and Ukraine (who was a signatory of the Ottawa treaty) also has an arsenal of anti-personnel and anti-vehicle mines which are specifically meant to be hidden and disguised? Quite literally booby traps with long-lasting risks for civilian lives. Many children have lost their lives due to mines, yet they are still deemed acceptable in war.Anything that risks civilian lives is pretty messed up. But even compared to the mines being used in Ukraine, the pagers/radios were far more targeted and posed less risk to civilians.
This is not true.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty
Oh snap, that's awesome! I wasn't aware of this. I assumed NATO would be consistent with the US on mines. Thank you for sharing this.
I'll modify my argument to "Even the US and Ukraine use mines"
It's interesting though, according to my research the distinction between mines and weapons lie in how it's activated. For example, the C19 ex-Claymore is now remote detonation only to comply with the Ottawa treaty because it can only be activated remotely and cannot be used with an indiscriminate activator like a tripwire. Therefore it is a weapon. With this les, the pagers/radios are more akin to weapons rather than mines.
So booby traps are allowed, as long as someone is there to decide when to press the button, which the Israelies clearly did.
No, I didn't forget. Someone even mentioned them in this same comment chain.
Okay, so let's go with your position that attacking soldiers with explosive weapons in civilian areas are not justifiable.
Based on your beliefs, what do you see as a justifiable response to Hezbollah's year long barrage of rockets and missiles into Israeli cities. Keep in mind Hezbollah by and large conducts these strikes directly embedded in or right beside civilian sites. And they also store weapons in civilian sites.
The goal now is not to say which is worse, there's plenty of blame to go around. The goal is to understand how you think about conflict and the principles you believe in that shape your views.
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No dude, it’s pretty reasonable for me to ask that they don’t kill children with IEDs.
Serious question, would you condone assassinating Putin with an IED even if several children were killed? Would it be better if they used a missile strike with 5x the civilian casualties because at least it isn't an IED? Would it be better to do nothing and allow an opposing military force to continue bombarding your cities and your children with rockets and missiles?
I abhore the mass bombings and utter destruction Israel has wrought over the last year. It is beyond the pale. I would genuinely have prefered it if they could've taken out all of Hamas by blowing up cell phones in their pockets instead.
I mean it was wrong when the US bombed weddings in the middle east and was a bad look. Don't even need hypotheticals.
There’s no risk of Putin being at a random grocery store or hospital so your hypothetical doesn’t tea make sense.
That doesn't answer the question. Let me rephrase to be more direct.
What do you believe makes for acceptable and unacceptable civilian casualties (e.g. children) in urban warfare and what principles do you draw on to form these beliefs? Please use an example from a side you feel are "the good guys".
If you're a pacifist or believe not a single civilian casualty is acceptable, what would your approach be to resolving a conflict where your civilian population is being attacked with rockets/missiles?
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What an utter piece of trash. I'm sure he'll have a good home at Newsmax or whatever.
Mehdi is the GOAT.
Good that they banned him. Wishing someone that has a conversation with you but does not agree with you this kind of harm means you need to be excluded from the discourse.
I agree that it was a blatantly out of line and wrong thing to say, but it's not wishing harm. At least the phrasing isn't.
Look at it this way. Say someone has tires on their car which are practically falling apart. The conversation goes:
Friend: "you really need to get new tires, they're complete thread-bare"
Owner: "nah, they're fine"
Friend: "you're being negligent, I hope you don't get into an accident"
The way the CNN conversation reads to me is that the guy was implying "if we listen to you, then things might progress to the point where you might get attacked, and *I hope your pager doesn't go off*".
Maybe that's not what he meant, but generally that's how such a statement is used.
No, he said exactly what he meant.
The logic Zionists employ: Palestinian = terrorist. Because Hasan said "I'm pro Palestinian" the other dude called him a terrorist and said harm should come to him using the phrasing "I hope your pager does not explode". Because of the Hamas pagers recently being blown up by Mossad and Mehdi is pro Palestinian so a terrorist and would have a pager of a terrorist organisation.
CNN and everyone at the table rightfully reacted the way they did.
You completely glossed over what I said. If he "said what he meant", then he said nothing to wish harm.
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No one is saying otherwise.
Well then, if I would tell you I" hope you don't get a cut on your tongue from all the boots you lick" how would you interpret that? As its the same type of gist.
It's incredibly spiteful and passive aggressive, but that's still not wishing harm. For it to be wishing harm it would have to be "I hope you DO get a cut on your tongue from all the boots you lick".
"I hope you don't get raped wearing *that.*"
Totally cool things to say.
You're not making any argument against what I said. Your comment *"totally cool things to say"* implies I'm arguing that the guy on CNN said nothing wrong. Which isn't true.
Israelis are now using the same arguments as they do in Israel on American TV.
Not even Western media can protect them from themselves anymore.
The absolute state of Hasbara.
western media will always only protect israel. this dude isn't going to face any consequences. "banned from CNN", yeah we'll see about that. bro probably just had to get back to englin airforce base to post more zionist propaganda on reddit, he wasn't ever asked to leave and certainly not told to never come back. mark my words, he will be back on CNN within the next two months.
I am moreso hinting towards completely insane Israeli articles such as this not getting western coverage: https://lemmy.world/post/21368819
Basically telling someone who's Arab, "I hope you die" in the most racist way possible.
This hate is brought to you by Israel.
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He hoped the beeper didn't go off though, isn't that the opposite of "I hope you die"?
Still not a good thing to say. Even if one were to believe him that it was a joke, it would still be pretty horrendous
It still implies he's a terrorist for supporting Palestinians.
And that the other people were in the blast radius. Truly fucked-up.
How?
Those pagers weren't just distributed to the general population.
Good point
Wow, you're fucking dumb.
You must have many friends, with charm like that
Yeah, just like how my dad was sincere when he told me "I hope you dont get AIDS" while kicking me out the house after i came out
Fuck man. I'm really sorry.
I hope you're doing ok.
Well, I *genuinely* hope you don't get AIDS. And that you find better family to replace that asshole...
It’s like if they were in the context of black folks being hanged, and he said to a black guest: “I hope they run out of rope for you”.
Like yeah, they’re technically saying they hope his life is spared, but only through a mistake.
It's even a little bit worse than that. Here's a quick Youtube video with, I think, just enough context.
It's quick and glib and is structured like a bit of political wit, but he's pretty earnestly comparing Hasan to Hamas/Hezbollah and the "joke" is more about his comic persona (to the extent you develop one in the three seconds of buildup to being Mr. Funny on a news panel show) hoping that he and the entire table don't get blown up by Hasan's beeper during the show. I didn't get any subtext or subtle implication that Hasan should be spared, except for duration of the oh-so-funny Gidursky being in the blast radius.
It's the sort of thing that somebody might feel safe saying on CNN if, in other environments, they'd be perfectly happy wishing death on people who oppose the war. A cheap shot from a racist asshole.
Well said. I too was confused that he said *doesn't*, but he was basically saying "I hope I'm not collateral damage when Israel murders you". Absolute psycho...
exactly
True. Also unrelated: I hope you and your family don't die in a car crash.
Thanks! Same to you!
Ever hear of sarcasm? That's the way it came off to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Who financed Hamas to destabilize the PLO? Israel.
Reminds me of when you guys invaded my country, murdered my people and fucked off home to call us names and racist sluts for decades. No apology. Now you guys want to moralize to the rest of the world while your hands drip with blood.
Do you know how little that narrows it down?
The exact quote that popped into my head.
Which country? You're gonna have to be a bit more specific.
Weird I don't remember doing that
Yeah you just benefited from it and moved on
serbia? I mean, I think we should do the exact same thing to Israel honestly
bruh's out here advocating for genocide
bruh, we stopped the genocides there, learn a bit of history, Most Serbians are upset that we didn't let them slaughter the Kosovar Yugoslavs and Bosniaks
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Going on Twitter to complain that your bigotry wasn't well received and then suggesting that Qatar funding is partially to blame is peak irony
https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2022/11/12/qatars-backing-of-elon-musks-twitter-deal-raises-questions-ahead-of-the-fifa-world-cup/
In person was all back tracking, and regret. Gets online, and is now a big, strong, keyboard warrior.
what a goddamn idiot
"I'll bet you wouldn't say that joke about Muslims or Jews". The joke they actually have in mind:
Good. The guest deserves to be gone.
Video clip of the comment and aftermath during discussion (via twitter): https://x.com/Acyn/status/1851085909435039789
"Are you a supporter of Hamas?"
"Are you a racist, violent person inciting violence against me?"
they got so comfortable... they at least used to hide under their hoods before.
To think, all they had to do was appeal to the lurking bigotry within societies to bring them out and normalize that sort of language. They are sort of screwed if they think they aren't sliding into a world where the evangelicals being radicalized and increasingly in control of the nation financing and supplying it will come asking for their pound of flesh when the shift into a theocratically-narrative-driven oligarchy is established, and then take the whole body.
Literally an appeal to terrorism, it was the right move.
We Girdusky's last brain cell doesn't go on strike.
from the liver to the knee my internal organs shall be free
Wouldn't that be a slight death threat? Or no, because he said he hoped it didn't happen, ignoring the tone?
"it would be a shame if something happened to your family"
it's a pretty standard form of threat in my opinion.
It's kinda hard to call that a threat. It's more accurate to say it's an accusation that the guy is a terrorist.
Not just any Muslim journalist, Mehdi is a die-hard anti-Israel propagandist, so much so that MSNBC dropped him for his abhorrent comments after the Hamas terrorist attack
Care to site that source?
Sure thing
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/msnbc-scraps-anti-israel-host-mehdi-hasans-show/
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/30/msnbc-mehdi-hasan-show-canceled-00129435
https://www.commondreams.org/news/mehdi-hasan-canceled
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/187m7v0/msnbc_cancels_mehdi_hasans_show_this_comes_after/
There are also a million right wing sources covering it of course, but I figure that lacks credibility in this context
Mehdi Hassan is amazing, what are you talking about.
They're a Zionist. Don't take their words seriously. 😁
TIL I'm a zionist 😁
You realize this comment is why people knee-jerk call those with this sentiment anti-semites, right? What part of Jews believing in restoring their ancient homeland makes them immediately dismissible? Not all zionists advocate genocide just like not all Palestinians advocate genocide.
Hello. I'm from the mongolic empire ancient homeland restoration committee and would like to ask you for your opinion on everyone just fucking off of the sacred land of Temüjin and his ancestors.
Because every bullshit claim on land once settled on MUST be given back to some random tribe that once settled there.
By the way, the italians may claim israel for themselves, because the romans once held it.
So Palestinians don't have a valid claim, either? Only recency? If that's the case, then Israelis have the most valid claim because they're currently there.
The only part of your comment that wasn't batshit insane conspiracy was msnbc dropping him, but you still got the reason wrong
What comment did you find so abhorrent?