JollyPieFedVoters didn't reject women, they rejected Kamala Harris
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dandelionin case you weren't aware, Reason is a right-wing publication whose foundation is primarily funded by one of the Koch brothers
Also a lot of Kremlin statements around this election seemingly boasting that they hacked machines.
EldritchThis is Ozma. They're known for heavy bias and axe grinding. It attacks Democrats and that's what was important to them. Not factualness or logic.
People trying like crazy to push all the blame on Democrats and Harris. Because after all. If they only did this one magic thing they would never lose. Right? It's freaking magic. How could they lose.
Don't get me wrong. Democrats absolutely deserve some blame. But I'm sure all the people that spent the whole general shouting that "they're both the same", "blue maga", "genocide Joe/Harris" surely couldn't have disenfranchised and demotivated people to stay home. They all got played and are trying to absolve themselves.
Cousin MoseRejected *a* woman and *womens* rights.
jordanlundWhich is weird because:
Arizona - Right to Abortion. Yes 61 to 39
Colorado - Right to Abortion. Yes 62 to 38
Florida - Right to Abortion. No 43 to 57 - Needed Yes >= 60 to pass.
Maryland - Right to Abortion. Yes 74 to 26
Missouri - Right to Abortion. Yes 52 to 48
Montana - Right to Abortion. Yes 58 to 42
Nebraska - Right to Abortion. No 52 to 48
Nebraska - Prohibit abortions after 1st Trimester - Yes 55 to 45
Nevada - Right to Abortion. Yes 64 to 36
New York - Right to Abortion. Yes 62 to 38
South Dakota - Right to Abortion. No 59 to 41
Except for Florida, Nebraska and South Dakota, looks like people do support womens rights.
They do, but as a Missourian. I can 100% say they have no clue about how to do it. Legalizing abortion again, but electing the man that will get it nationally banned. It may be largely willful ignorance and apathy. But that doesn't mean it can't also be sexism and misogynistic attitudes too. They can support their personal right to choose but not give a damn about anyone else. After all there were Nazi jews. I have little doubt there are misogynistic women. For some of them it's about there personal rights. Cognitive dissonance makes it for some really f* up situations.
Hey Florida got more than 50%, 3 other states would have banned abortion if they had the same % to win. Even the case to change it to 60% to win... got 57% support.
The whole "voters rejected a woman of color" thing is because the party wants an excuse to shut down an AOC run.
I tend to think they rejected reason.
What is the underlying cause of that?
Honestly? Ignorance. On all the issues the media says voters votes on the most (immigration, the economy) it seems the voters had no clue what the Biden administration (and more generally, the government) has been doing.
I said it elsewhere but it’s like everyone watched Fox News for 30 minutes and/or scrolled their algorithm-based feed to base their vote on.
But *why?* That's a post-hoc justification, not an analysis of why people accept the ideas they do.
My original comment was:
That’s obviously an opinion; and my opinion as to why is that the voters were ignorant.
I’m a web developer, not an analyst, mind reader or Trump supporter with firsthand knowledge of their way of thinking.
My point is that you don't have to be an analyst, mind reader, or Trump supporter to try to understand why people "reject reason," as you say.
In my opinion, as a Marxist, the rise of Trump is a very clear symptom of Capitalist decay. As the Petite Bourgeoisie is proletarianized, ie as the Middle Class (small business owners and the like) face downward pressure from competition against massive, monopolist syndicates and cartels, they turn against the Proletariat, ie the working class.
This is in combination with the DNC's failure to meaningfully address real working class concerns, by running to the right of Biden in 2020, they disconnected themselves even further from the will of the working class, and lost support.
Bingo. Not just capitalism though, but specifically the neoliberalism Dems offered as "solutions" to the ongoing crises created by Capitalism.
She wasn't a tradpresident.
based on the initial numbers i saw just after the election, trump got a number of votes similar to what he garnered in the last two elections. but harris got about 15 million votes less than Biden. so a large number of people who voted democrat in 2020 just didn't bother to vote in 2024 and most of them were probably registered democrats. was it the fact that harris is both black and a woman that soured them on voting in 2024? seems likely.